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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:32:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Since problem is ignored
the only problem here is you whining.
and that really should be ignored. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:45:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Chicknhawk wrote:Since problem is ignored ice miners aren't an issue. the only problem here is you whining. and that really should be ignored. Not whining. Just proposing a fair deal which would leave both trigger happy types and miners real content.
no,
Chicknhawk wrote:depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice. is pretty much whining. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:54:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Jason Xado wrote:Multiboxing is valid gameplay. Well if he multiboxed in a system with low population, there would be no problems. But that conscienceless inconsiderate of others parasite multiboxes in very high population system, he is not alone in there yet he acts as whole system's ice belongs to him.
see, we're back to whining again.
and ironically; you're acting like all the ice belongs to you. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:57:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:You don't know he's botting. He could be ISBoxing his 30 man fleet. Still, spectacularly anti-social and/or would make me wonder about RMT, bot or no bot. I mean WHYYYYYY? because mining is designed in such a way that having more than one physical person doing the activity is detrimental to said activity. the sad truth of mining, really. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:02:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Chicknhawk wrote:Jason Xado wrote:Multiboxing is valid gameplay. Well if he multiboxed in a system with low population, there would be no problems. But that conscienceless inconsiderate of others parasite multiboxes in very high population system, he is not alone in there yet he acts as whole system's ice belongs to him. see, we're back to whining again. and ironically; you're acting like all the ice belongs to you. are you a multiboxer yourself, why you even advocating for that parasite? You havent even been to that system, you'd see lots of very uhappy folks in there, he messes everyone's cycle times and leaves them with nothing. Just fly to Osmon and spend some time with the people in ice belts in there.
i haven't advocated for that 'parasite' once. i've just pointed out you're whining.
i've been to osmon many times. the fact it's full of whiners is relevant how? |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:13:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Since when asking for justice and fairness is considered to be a whining? considering that's not what you're doing; it's irrelevant.
you want the ice? mine it first. |

Dave stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:23:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Chicknhawk wrote:Since when asking for justice and fairness is considered to be a whining? considering that's not what you're doing; it's irrelevant. you want the ice? mine it first. Heh? Dont matter that multiboxer is online 24/7, mining first doesnt help either, attempted various methods trying to move to other belts and put enough distance between him and myself, takes him little over minute or two to mine out 140 strong ice rock. Only way out is for him to leave the system and find some ice belts in low populated system. One guy is screwing hundreds of people out of their ice.
if it's their ice, why is it in his hangar? |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 17:46:00 -
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Sister of Pain wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Sister of Pain wrote:A speedy Machariel can keep the freighter(s) out of transfer range and shut the whole Borg operation down. Bring a friend or alt in something smaller to keep the freighter from aligning while you set up your next bump, and that hoovers day is over. He's not going to jetcan, and if he does, then think ahead by dropping secure cans at all the nearby gates to alert the flippers to a free meal. He might just resort to hauling full proc loads though. It's easy enough to do if he's using isboxer, and each full dock would be 480 units of ice. It would only slow him down. What you need is a fleet of bumpers pulling off the biggest bump on record, each having a miner and bumping them repeatedly out of the belt, then out of alignment. Could be an amazing fraps moment. Then all he would have to do is orbit the Proc's and that option goes away too. (You might get a couple of them, but if they aren't sitting still, then trying to bump them just won't work out) Making him dock all those and dump them every 6 mins (assuming T2's, Yeti's, and max orca bonuses) will take quite a bit of ice out of his overall yield per belt which is exactly wheat is needed to put him in the red with 40 active subs to plex.
considering a high sec ice belt is 2500 units of ice / 12 units per ship = 209 procurer's worth of ice... that's only 7 dock ups, that's not a massive amount. and that's assuming he doesn't manage to get any in his orca/freighter at all. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.03 18:14:00 -
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Sister of Pain wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:You know what would fix this?
Cargo hold ore/ice siphons.
Instead of making mining a "mini game", as was done to hacking and analyzing, let the players be the mini game. I think a siphon high slot module would be a better idea.  To protect your cargo hold, a low slot module would need to be fitted instead of MLU/IHU's.
alternatively, blow it up and scoop the loot. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:15:00 -
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just took a trip to osmon because.
2 ice anomalies up, so clearly there isn't a problem an the OP is a liar. |
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:36:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Dave Stark wrote:just took a trip to osmon because.
2 ice anomalies up, so clearly there isn't a problem an the OP is a liar. I don't know the OP from Adam, but he's not "lying". I watched that Procurer fleet suck up an entire ice field in well under an hour. Every time I bumped one off by 30km, it was back in two minutes. At one point most of the Procs dropped cans which I was totally unprepared for. At that point the Fenrir warped in and the pilot posted "om nom nom" in local to add to all the tears.. I laughed my socks off. It's an interesting problem though. Of course CCP are loving the 40+ Plexes this guy has to buy every 30 days. And I would love to see his hardware setup. On the other hand, well, just... What. The Fug.
well he is lying, because he said the multiboxer deprives everyone of their ice. clearly not the case when there are A) more than one ice site up, and B) it takes him nearly an hour to clear an ice site. C) it's not "their ice" at all.
so yes, the OP is lying. it's an empirical fact. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:38:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Chicknhawk wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Chicknhawk wrote:Dont matter that multiboxer is online 24/7. What I'm really interested in is how you know he's on 24/7? Is there something you're not telling us here? Has the multiboxer cut in to your RMT botting profits? Mine alone actually in my trusty retriever. Log on and play at random times last week or two (my schedule is all messed up), that armada is online all the time, never seen him being offline. Perhaps his schedule is also messed up. Who are you to judge the playing habits of a shift worker?
or perhaps he's just flat out unemployed. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.05 09:21:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Yeah that wouldn't surprise me to be honest. I've met a lot of unemployed people slaving it up in highsec.
i used to do it when i was unemployed. mining was great when i had revision to do, or if i was trawling jobs websites.
these days i've realised it's quicker to just farm incursions for a day solid then not have to bother with isk making for the next 29 days. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.05 18:22:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Bibosikus wrote:Dave Stark wrote:just took a trip to osmon because.
2 ice anomalies up, so clearly there isn't a problem an the OP is a liar. I don't know the OP from Adam, but he's not "lying". I watched that Procurer fleet suck up an entire ice field in well under an hour. Every time I bumped one off by 30km, it was back in two minutes. At one point most of the Procs dropped cans which I was totally unprepared for. At that point the Fenrir warped in and the pilot posted "om nom nom" in local to add to all the tears.. I laughed my socks off. It's an interesting problem though. Of course CCP are loving the 40+ Plexes this guy has to buy every 30 days. And I would love to see his hardware setup. On the other hand, well, just... What. The Fug. well he is lying, because he said the multiboxer deprives everyone of their ice. clearly not the case when there are A) more than one ice site up, and B) it takes him nearly an hour to clear an ice site. C) it's not "their ice" at all. so yes, the OP is lying. it's an empirical fact. There are three ice belts in Osmon, takes that bot an hour or less to clear all three belts actually.
what's your point? also, this isn't about bots.
the OP is still incorrect. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.05 18:23:00 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Dave stark is starting to sound like the botter...
really? i sound like a botter?
pointing out the OP is both whining and wrong makes me a botter? how the hell did you get to that conclusion? |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:34:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Despite your repeated primitive and aggressive attempts to start a flame war, there'd be no flame war here. Dont forget he has an Orca support, I figure it takes me about an hour to fill my retriever twice, each time I carry 25 ice cubes,with that bot being around people barely manage one and a half loads, instead of their usual three or four loads or more per ice belt spawn.
i'm not trying to start a flame war; i'm just pointing out that lies aren't good.
i've already factored in orca boosts.
so you clearly admit you are getting ice and aren't being deprived at all. so you're even just admitting you're lying now then. excellent. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:20:00 -
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gets called out on lying.
starts the tinfoil stories.
this is gold. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:49:00 -
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Chicknhawk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:gets called out on lying.
starts the tinfoil stories.
this is gold. I am not lying. I explained it to you time and again, without that bot puppet master I and others always were able to get several 4 or more full loads of ice cubes per three belt ice spawn (Osmon gets three belts at the same time normally). Now with that bot armada I and others barely manage to get one and a half loads of ice per three belt ice spawn, very lucky if I manage two full loads. That guy sucks everything up, so do your math again. do my math again? how about you just stop lying. my maths is spot on. i'm the guy that pointed out the error in the dev blog when they released the mining barge changes. that's how correct my maths is. when you lie about these things, i will call you out on it. it takes 30 procurers with orca boosts over 40 mins to clear 1 ice anomaly so telling me he's clearing all 3 in under 1 hour is complete fantasy and you know it. feel free to show me the maths that proves you can clear 7500 units of ice in under 60 mins with 30 procurers. be a man, accept the challenge.
Mortlake wrote:Dave Stark is obviously a GM alt, the botter and in all likelihood, Elvis. Now, if you'll just tell us where Jimmy Hoffa is buried, we can all get on with our lives. confirming that i am the king. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:15:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:Why do you think 90% of NO pilots are in NPC corps? ;) because player corp mechanics are **** and NPC corps offer far more than virtually every player corp can. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:54:00 -
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Erro Fenn wrote:Adolph Weltschmerz wrote:The rules are the same for all of us. We are all free to get as many accounts as we want and multibox all day. I fail to see a problem. Correct, no problem for experienced players. What about peoples with just 1 account and 1 character? Your measurement tape is incorrect, please replace it.
what about them? nothing is stopping them opening more accounts. |
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:11:00 -
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Erro Fenn wrote:Quote:what about them? nothing is stopping them opening more accounts. OK, you got me lost here. Why would any one need more than 1 account with 3 characters provided except multiboxers? 3 characters already providing versatility for any kind of role playing. 1'st is pirate, 2'nd is business man and 3'rd is just for goofing around. Besides buy activating 2'nd and 3'rd character training, all 3 toons can be trained up simultaneously. Multiple accounts is really needed only to leech asteroid and ice fields dry. Purpose is obviously for selling plexes and ISK for real money. So apparently veterans are those scum bags, not noobs. Just had funny idea, what about New Order was founded for other reasons, like now it is harder mine for veterans and prices also dropping. Or some prices have vent sky high, everyone who has a POS needs fuel. So New Order actually wants put new miners out of business that they can fill their needs quicker and easier. Entire community is corrupt inside out, please tell me I'm wrong. And talking something about dignity, it is fairy tale for 3 years old kids.
you heard it here first; all pilots with more than 1 account do nothing but mine ice and RMT. your a terrible troll. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:29:00 -
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i do believe nobody has provided any evidence that 30 procurers can harvest 7500 units of ice in 60 mins.
i thought as much. the OP is nothing but a liar. |
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